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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Yessir » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:27 pm

Just my opinion of non-lockers... :thdn: . They should be banned on health and safety grounds IMO :lol: .
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Bushdog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:41 pm

When I was growing up, there was hardly any such thing as a locking knife - we managed to do all tasks with them.
I have myriad scars on my fingers to prove it!!!
I tend to agree that in a society that accepts the need for sound moderators on the basis of safety to the user, lock-blade knives should also be the norm.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Yessir » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:25 pm

Bushdog wrote:, lock-blade knives should also be the norm.


For the law abiding.

Except we have a 'feel good' law which drug dealers and chav's couldn't even care enough of to know about.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Bushdog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:09 pm

Yep. But thats the whole point about laws and abiding by them - criminals don't.
Somebody needs to point that out to the Government/niaive.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby flintlok » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:59 am

Bushdog wrote:When I was growing up, there was hardly any such thing as a locking knife - we managed to do all tasks with them.
I have myriad scars on my fingers to prove it!!!
I tend to agree that in a society that accepts the need for sound moderators on the basis of safety to the user, lock-blade knives should also be the norm.


I have a 50 year old nasty scar on one of my fingers from a non locking folder. I rarely carry a knife that doesn't lock and if I do it's only for very light duty.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Haggis » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:45 am

If you're hunting or have a valid reason then you can have a sheath or locking knife on you. There is no outright ban on them.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Bushdog » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:19 pm

Haggis - absolutely!! Understood.

I just think it would be nice if when carrying our small "general purpose" knives (i.e. the ones for which we don't need a "valid reason" - non-locking blade less than 3" etc) that they could be locking bladed, just to stop any more sliced knuckles!!! I can't really see that a locking blade turns a small knife into any more of an offensive weapon than a non-locker, and possession of one is certainly unlikely to turn any rational person into some kind of hacking berserker.

They are noticeably safer to use, though - perhaps I'm just clumsy, but sounds like Flintlok is the same way ;) .
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Yessir » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:30 pm

It will happen to anyone if they use one enough :thdn: .
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Cottontail killer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:13 pm

My everyday carry is a sog ageis no exactly uk leagal but used every day never the less. also have a leatherman multitool,Axe and machete in the car (I took the chainsaw out a few weeks ago)

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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Yessir » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:44 pm

Cottontail killer wrote:My everyday carry is a sog ageis no exactly uk leagal but used every day never the less. also have a leatherman multitool,Axe and machete in the car (I took the chainsaw out a few weeks ago)

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Any idea if our carry laws are the same as the UK's Paul? :hmm: . I've just assumed they are as I can't find anything relevant, just the list of "offensive weapons" on the IoM customs import restrictions.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Cottontail killer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:11 pm

No mate no idea I figure I have good reason to carry it so I do
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby flintlok » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:37 pm

Yessir wrote:It will happen to anyone if they use one enough :thdn: .


I believe that's true. At one time I only carried a fixed blade knife in a sheath strapped to my belt. When the came out with reliable locking folder I went with that and never looked back.
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby TJC » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:24 pm

What is EDC knife law in the UK ? Am i right in thinking blade sub 3 inches, no assisted opening and no locking mechanism or is that plain wrong ?
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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby Beer Hunter » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:00 pm

TJC wrote:What is EDC knife law in the UK ? Am i right in thinking blade sub 3 inches, no assisted opening and no locking mechanism or is that plain wrong ?

The Criminal Justice Act of 1998 allows an exemption whereby, without reason, you may carry a knife with a blade length (cutting edge) of 3.0" or less as long as it is capable of folding.
The opening mechanism can be assisted, but not automatic (i.e. push button).
There is nothing written in law that prevents a locking mechanism, but there was a test case some time back where the judge ruled that the locking mechanism effectively made the knife a non-folder when in use (well, duh, yea) and therefore not considered eligible under the exception. Therefore it is illegal to carry a lock or fixed blade knife in a public place, unless you have a good reason to do so - shooting or fishing activities are good reasons for example, but only if you are on your way to / from taking part in them.

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Re: UK "legal" carry knifes

Postby TJC » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:10 pm

Beer Hunter wrote:
TJC wrote:What is EDC knife law in the UK ? Am i right in thinking blade sub 3 inches, no assisted opening and no locking mechanism or is that plain wrong ?

The Criminal Justice Act of 1998 allows an exemption whereby, without reason, you may carry a knife with a blade length (cutting edge) of 3.0" or less as long as it is capable of folding.
The opening mechanism can be assisted, but not automatic (i.e. push button).
There is nothing written in law that prevents a locking mechanism, but there was a test case some time back where the judge ruled that the locking mechanism effectively made the knife a non-folder when in use (well, duh, yea) and therefore not considered eligible under the exception. Therefore it is illegal to carry a lock or fixed blade knife in a public place, unless you have a good reason to do so - shooting or fishing activities are good reasons for example, but only if you are on your way to / from taking part in them.

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So in effect you are left with the old fashioned pen knife under 3 inches only ?
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