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Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby Judge Ali » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:42 pm

Thought I would make this a new thread from my FAC one.

My ticket states .22rf which I understood just meant a normal .22 rimfire. But does this also cover a .22lr, .22 magnum etc. or do these need to be specifically listed. Is .22rf just a generic term for any .22 round?

Those with a .22lr - what does your ticket state?

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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby The Burpster » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:10 pm

Alex...

Kind of yes......

.22rf means only .22LR. Any other type (ie .22WMR) should be stated on your ticket. .22 WMR is a different chamber.

Although anything you can get in your .22LR you can probably use... ie CB longs, .22lr subs .22lr hi-vel and .22lr hyper-vel.

Depending on which police area youre in, it might state teh kind of .22lr you can have also ie semi-auto or bolt.... fortunatley here in Lincs we are allowed either on a vacant slot.
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby alan108 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:15 pm

My FAC states .22RF and moderator can be used for vermin,BUT,i'm in the market for a new .22rf as i've just sold one and it states that I can buy a .22 rifle, no mention of lr, magnum or even rf. :? :?
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby Beer Hunter » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:02 pm

I would have thought that .22rf would allow either any of the .22 rimfire rifles to be bought to be bought.
Amongst others :
  • .22 Cap rounds, including BB Cap
  • .22 Short
  • .22 Long
  • .22 Long Rifle (.22 LR)
  • .22 Extra Long
  • .22 Winchester Rimfire (.22 WRF - AKA .22 Remington Special)
  • .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (.22 WMR)

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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby stucane » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:09 pm

According to my local RFD, my ticket for .22 rimfire will accomodate a .22WMR without a separate slot - though not really sure of the advantage of the WMR - longer range perhaps, but no doubt noisier?
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby jeff » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:55 pm

.22RF simply means a .22 cal rimfire cartridge - of which there are several. It's often taken to mean .22LR, as it's the most common one and will chamber some of the others, but that isn't strictly accurate.

If a slot says .22RF and you requested .22RF and at no point asked for .22LR specifically, I can't see any issues with getting .22WMR.....but as to whether I would want one over a .22LR is a different matter. :)
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby Judge Ali » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:04 pm

ok, thanks for your posts. i thought a .22rf referred to a .22 short and hence thats why the others had their names to distinguish them. now i understand i have actually exactly what i requested here as well then and this does cover me for a .22lr as well. i thought it a little strange that i could have a .22 short but not a .22lr..............

anyway, i have been allowed everything i wanted - happy days! :)
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby alan108 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:22 pm

now comes the tricky bit,sorting which ammo to use :? :hmm:
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby Judge Ali » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:26 pm

alan108 wrote:now comes the tricky bit,sorting which ammo to use :? :hmm:


your not wrong - talk about a flooded market! this will be for the range and then night time lamping but still not even 100% sure which rifle i am going to get yet. i pick up the .17hmr in a couple of days and then need to decide what to get next.

as soon as i have the rifle will start looking at ammo a little more closely - subsonic all the way i guess for night time lamping.
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby alan108 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:49 pm

I've got a new Cz .22 rimfire and find that it likes Winchester X subs, i've tried CCi subs,but,very tight to chamber and not all are subsonic!I think other users have found the same,anyway best of luck with the ammo hunt (good excuse for popping off loads of rounds :grin: )
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Re: Is a .22rf the same as a .22lr?

Postby Keef » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:17 pm

Regarding ammo for the .22.

My son used Eley Hollow point Sub Sonic in his CZ and that would group to 1" at 100 yards off the bench.

Going more up market the same ammo would group to an inch at 100 yards in a 10/22 with a Volquartsen Carbon Fibre Barrel.

I've used this ammo in my Sako Finn Fire with good results but I haven't measured the group size.

Most of the shooters at the club (Derby) use what was Lapua Club for gallery rifle small bore. It comes in tubs of 500, has some lubrication but not so much that it gums up the action of a semi auto. I've used it in a 10/22 and my Thompson Benchmark. This ammo will now be labled with a different brand name in future. As it's used at 50 yards or less pin point accuracy isn'r needed but it works well in the rifles, is accurate enough for the x ring and it's not overly expensive.

The best results in the Thompson and the Sako were with Lapua Midas but it's twice the price of the Standard.

I have an Anschutz Match rifle for bench rest and the best results are with Eley Ten X but at £186 per 1000 it's not for the odd plinking session.

The worst results I've had with any of my rifles was with RWS ammo but that's not to say it won't work well in other rifles, it just doesn't suit mine.

Try your rifle with a variety of makes of ammo and chose one that performs to what you need and is affordable.
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