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The Land Rover Defender

Postby Deallad » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:39 pm

Those of you that use a Land rover for shooting know that this great British Icon is about to come to an end.

I have set up a petition on change.org to show some support for the Defender.

If you own one give it some support.

https://www.change.org/p/house-of-commo ... r-defender

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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby scoop » Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:03 pm

Done :thup:
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby waterford103 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:04 pm

Dunnit :thumbs:
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby tisme » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:17 am

Signed but I'm not sure it will do much. Very sad to not be able to buy a new UK Defender
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Keef » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:35 pm

They'll be being made in India as soon as they can get the tooling dismantled and sent out.

The EU may be partly to blame for the demise of the Defender but it's probably more about cost of production. It doesn't lend itself to mass production using robotics and is manpower intensive to make, so uneconomical to produce.

They're not the most reliable machines either. How many Defenders do you see ISIS using?

I wonder what the British Army will replace it with once they've used up all their war reserve stocks?
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby 9mm » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:44 pm

Saw the Husky among other contenders at a defence expo recently, the MoD are spoilt for choice.

Sad end to a great era though!
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Keef » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:39 pm

The Land Rovers were known officially as a Truck General Purpose and they were/are used as general run around as well as for recce when they were fitted with the top frames for 50cal and 40mm grenade and radio vehicles.

They wouldn't want to run a Husky around as a run about, the cost in fuel would be too high as would spares usage.

I assume they'll need something to directly replace the LR.
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby The_Dogge » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:52 pm

Don't know why you'd want a defender, design has moved on a bit since the 1940s! The army aren't going to bemoan its demise, it had a terrible reputation as a death trap in the recent campaigns didn't it?
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Ray7756 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:11 pm

Just saw this on another forum so had to pinch it and stick it here

It just came through here on Slovakian news radio that the contract for the financial support between the Slovakian government & JLR was signed today.
So the Defender will live on after all in some form or other.
Last year they built only 17,781 units but this year will be higher due to the nostalgia effect.
Reuters stated yesterday Luxury car maker Jaguar Land Rover and the Slovak government will sign an agreement this week on a production plant in Slovakia, three Slovak government sources said on Tuesday.


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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Keef » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:56 pm

The new production plant is for making the new Defender, a totally different beast that'll be more like a Vitara.
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Ray7756 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:25 pm

Keef wrote:The new production plant is for making the new Defender, a totally different beast that'll be more like a Vitara.


Ah ok
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Deallad » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:42 am

The_Dogge wrote:Don't know why you'd want a defender, design has moved on a bit since the 1940s! The army aren't going to bemoan its demise, it had a terrible reputation as a death trap in the recent campaigns didn't it?



In reply to the above quote, out of all the Defenders built over %60 are still on the road, so it must be reliable, there is not another vehicle that can boast those statistics.

With regards to it being a death trap the Defender was never designed as an armoured fighting vehicle, the armour was very much an after thought designed to protect troops from side arms fire in Northern Ireland. ( The Snach Land Rover)

As a farm work horse it is at the top of it's field.

What was needed was some up dating and modernisation


It also gives jobs to British workers.

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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby scoop » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:15 am

The_Dogge wrote:Don't know why you'd want a defender, design has moved on a bit since the 1940s! The army aren't going to bemoan its demise, it had a terrible reputation as a death trap in the recent campaigns didn't it?

Don't knock the landy mate ffs , I've just bought one :doh:
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby Keef » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:06 am

Deallad wrote:In reply to the above quote, out of all the Defenders built over %60 are still on the road,


On the road in the form of rust dust on the tarmac.
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Re: The Land Rover Defender

Postby The_Dogge » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:26 pm

Deallad wrote:
The_Dogge wrote:Don't know why you'd want a defender, design has moved on a bit since the 1940s! The army aren't going to bemoan its demise, it had a terrible reputation as a death trap in the recent campaigns didn't it?


In reply to the above quote, out of all the Defenders built over %60 are still on the road, so it must be reliable, there is not another vehicle that can boast those statistics.

With regards to it being a death trap the Defender was never designed as an armoured fighting vehicle, the armour was very much an after thought designed to protect troops from side arms fire in Northern Ireland. ( The Snach Land Rover)

As a farm work horse it is at the top of it's field.

What was needed was some up dating and modernisation

It also gives jobs to British workers.

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I thought their reliability reputation was poor at best, they need a lot of maintenance compared to modern cars, the chassis rusts like mad and the issue is concealed by the aluminium bodywork. Old ones that are still on the road are probably like my granddad's brush, you know, he's had it 50 years and it's had 3 shafts and 7 new heads! When I read adverts for them they usually boast "new alternator, new starter, etc etc" like that's a good thing, it's stuff that just doesn't fail on most modern cars!

My dad had one when I was a kid, as a "farm workhorse", it was not a very practical vehicle, he's not had another. 2 friends have them tricked up for off roading, one is a proper classic, tax exempt, couldn't go far in them as they are far too loud and uncomfortable, not to mention uneconomical, though some of that is probably due to the aftermarket work, extreme tyres etc. Neither of them have the original engine.
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