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Postby Shootist » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:32 am

Anyone got one, or know if they're imported here?

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/FX%20Independence.htm
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Keef » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:56 am

Previous attempts at this type of design have never met the advertising claims.

There was a Titan single stroke. I had a couple of them in the workshop because the power levels were low and never got them above 10ftlbs.

Daystate made one that needed two strokes for full power if I remember and there was another (the name escapes me) that was a single stroke but with a complicated cam arrangement that gave large pump movement initially and more mechanical advantage as it neared full pressure in the cylinder. This might have been designed by Graham Block.

None of them really caught on, possible because of the fairly easy access to cylinder filling facilities in UK.
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Ray7756 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:36 pm

Try this link http://www.a-s-i.co.uk they are listed as uk importers for fx airguns, made in sweden so should be easy to get or just type fxairguns into searchbar and go to their site
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby The_Dogge » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:10 pm

There's one on guntrader.
An interesting piece of engineering, but £££!

I don't see the advantage. For a hunting trip you can have as many shots as you need in a very light cylinder, why carry the pump strapped to the rifle? For range use you don't want to be pumping, that isn't going to do your aim any good, I've done it and you quickly remember to do all your pumping AFTER the shooting! I see that you can fill this one from a bottle, and that's good, but in either scenario I cant see why I'd ever use a pump fixed to the rifle.
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Shootist » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:39 pm

I think it may be in part aimed at the 'survivalist' market, or similar remote users.
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Andy.I » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:41 pm

Here is a run through of how the FX Independence works: starting with a full charge, the rifle requires three easy pumps with the onboard pump for every shot taken. The rifle can be fired up to 7 times at full power with match grade consistency before any pumping is required. From this point, 21 pumps would be required to return the rifle to a full charge. The shooter can choose any combination of shots/pumps to match the need of the situation.

So it's a minimum of three pumps (using the integral pump) per pellet and you can give it (I assume a maximum of) 21 pumps for seven shots. It's an interesting concept.

The smooth twist barrel shows Ben Taylor is involved, but does anybody know to what extent?

I'll just breathe a sigh of relief when I note that it's not one pump per pellet - otherwise Dumbago would be crowing from his dungheap! :D
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Les1066 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:48 pm

I think I'll stick to my HW97K. One pump / one shot with all day long accuracy. :thumbs:
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Andy.I » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:19 am

Les1066 wrote:I think I'll stick to my HW97K. One pump / one shot with all day long accuracy. :thumbs:

You have to go some to beat the concept of a springer (especially recoilless) and, for me at least, it's only the extra features of a multi-shot PCP that offer a realistic alternative to its simplicity.

Other concepts might be interesting alternatives but I can't see them capturing more than a niche market.

I really ought to add a recoilless springer to my cabinet. :)
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby aardvark.cox » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:08 am

Airguns should be banned.
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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby flintlok » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:32 pm

aardvark.cox wrote:Airguns should be banned.



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Re: An interesting airgun,

Postby Les1066 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:53 pm

aardvark.cox wrote:Airguns should be banned.


Cheerful little soul, aren't you. :sleep:

Perhaps you'd like to explain exactly why you joined the forum in the first place? If it was simply to complain about guns in general, that's fine. It means we can all just ignore you in future. :roll:
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