Alex Gibbs wrote:No specific calibre required under the current UK law but you obviously need to use something suitable on humane grounds and out of respect - the .17hmr debate continues..... Lots of people use .22lr as this is the most common rimfire out there. I personally am getting a .223 specifically as my fox rifle.
jeff wrote:Alex Gibbs wrote:No specific calibre required under the current UK law but you obviously need to use something suitable on humane grounds and out of respect - the .17hmr debate continues..... Lots of people use .22lr as this is the most common rimfire out there. I personally am getting a .223 specifically as my fox rifle.
You must have fox (Or vermin in those regions where the police classify fox in with vermin) specifically listed as a condition on your FAC though, and that will specify the calibres you may use.
re'M'ington wrote:They may be classed as vermin by DEFRA,but,as far as the police are concerned they have to be added to your FAC for the specific calibre..........
An acqaintence of mine ... had been stalking one morning with his .243 and on the way back to his vehicle up pops Charlie so he shot it ,on arrival back at the car there is Mr Plod who ask to see his certificate on which he also has .222 for vermin the .243 states for deer only.
He actually received an official warning over this.
varminter wrote:re'M'ington wrote:They may be classed as vermin by DEFRA,but,as far as the police are concerned they have to be added to your FAC for the specific calibre..........
Eh? Only if you suffer from one of those exceptionally bossy, interfering, anally-obsessive police forces surely. WTF should anyone faff around distinguishing one kind of vermin from another? The word "fox" doesn't appear on my FAC, just "vermin", which is how it should be - though personally I'd prefer it if the police devoted all their resources to catching criminals, rather than obsessing about what sort of gun somebody uses to shoot what creature. E.g rogerhoad's story:An acqaintence of mine ... had been stalking one morning with his .243 and on the way back to his vehicle up pops Charlie so he shot it ,on arrival back at the car there is Mr Plod who ask to see his certificate on which he also has .222 for vermin the .243 states for deer only.
He actually received an official warning over this.
Good grief! And the plods wonder why their public standing has declined so dramatically! This is like something out of Kafka. Truly, madly, deeply batty and infuriating. Rogerhoad: how on earth did a plod come to be sneaking around the countryside observing your friend shoot a fox, and how did he know he'd used a .243 to do so? Have your coppers nothing better to do? Did your friend make this point (politely) to his Chief Constable, copied perhaps to the District Auditor with a note re the (mis)application of public funds?
With the upcoming Euro elections, I wonder how many here are writing to their various MEP candidates to ascertain their views on this sort of bloody stupid waste of time, and on firearms legislation in general: the only way these people will realise the depth of voters' dislike of stupid legislation is if they are told about it directly. Same applies to MPs, and we might well think that given their present decline in public esteem they might be a little more polite to constituents, a little more eager to please - and we'll have a General Election within the year. I'm curious to see whether my own MP is a little more malleable than previously, after a 1/4-page feature on him in yesterday's Telegraph about the expenses claimed to maintain his rather nice country house...
Regards, Malcolm
varminter wrote:Eh? Only if you suffer from one of those exceptionally bossy, interfering, anally-obsessive police forces surely. WTF should anyone faff around distinguishing one kind of vermin from another? The word "fox" doesn't appear on my FAC, just "vermin", which is how it should be - though personally I'd prefer it if the police devoted all their resources to catching criminals, rather than obsessing about what sort of gun somebody uses to shoot what creature. E.g rogerhoad's story:
Good grief! And the plods wonder why their public standing has declined so dramatically! This is like something out of Kafka. Truly, madly, deeply batty and infuriating. Rogerhoad: how on earth did a plod come to be sneaking around the countryside observing your friend shoot a fox, and how did he know he'd used a .243 to do so? Have your coppers nothing better to do? Did your friend make this point (politely) to his Chief Constable, copied perhaps to the District Auditor with a note re the (mis)application of public funds?
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